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04-04-2024, 11:05 AM #1576
I knew it would be a little acidic today, but I couldn’t resist. I appreciate the comment though tgapp. It’s a good reminder that I should head over and buy a week before I’m dry. That’s an easy enough change to make.
Visual inspection of the new VST basket compared to the basket that came with the bottomless portafilter…. not a lot of difference. It seems cheaper basket manufacturers really up’ed their game when the high tech baskets came out. In the machine, totally different ballgame. Shots this morning were fast, rich, no channeling, no spray, really gorgeous and velvety through the new basket. I pulled a few, never got the grind perfect. The last one was close and 19 in and 46 out in 30 seconds. I’ve never had the urge to shoot espresso porn, but when this roast rests a little longer and I get a few god shots pulled I’ll get the DSL out and set it up to get a good slow mo video.
Nice looking shot, mate. I’ll check out the link!
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04-04-2024, 11:08 AM #1577
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04-04-2024, 11:16 AM #1578
It’s only 75 bucks a pound.
I used to roast at home quite a bit, actually all the coffee I drank for 9 months I roasted, but it was tedious doing small batches. The most expensive coffee I ever bought green was down valley from that same farm, a nice Geisha that was $25 a pound from Sweet Marie’s about 12 or 13 years ago. Wish I remembered the farm’s name, no telling what it goes for now, probably similar to this.
When I lived in Costa Rica I visited that area several times. We had a marketing arrangement with Boquete Outdoor Adventures and would go visit and paddle in the fall. Definitely worth the trip. Had a pretty epic misadventure when I cracked the bell housing on a Range Rover four wheeling up this dry creek bed. We leaked tranny fluid all the way back to San Jose. That’s a different story though for a different day.
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04-04-2024, 11:44 AM #1579Registered User
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I just wanted to do espresso shot so > 10 yrs ago I did the research and settled on the Rancillio Sylvia @ more than 600$ CAN, I did 5 shots a day x 365 x 10 is north of 18000 shots before it finaly shit the bed
The Sylvia is now 1100$ so It made sense to get it fixed, I sent it to the big city where they fixed it like new for 600+ including some shipping and parts and I'm aiming for another 18000
But the Sylvia is built like a tank I don't know how many of those plastic all-in-ones could have gone 18000 shots ??Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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04-04-2024, 11:53 AM #1580
I can’t imagine having a Sylvia and a grinder for a whole office to use.
I used to have a small staff at my office, maxed out at 5 including myself and had a superauto. I still had to show someone who to froth milk once a week.
Probably the best bet is to put a superauto in and give a short reading for how to make a few different drinks. Then ask everyone not to touch any of the settings but ask you if they have a question. Then dial the grind, brew temp, and duration of the shots for a short and tall when you make your own drinks. Plumb it into a line with a water filter or teach everyone to refill the reservoir.
I had a couple of vendors that would ask for early appointments because they liked the coffee so much. Usually just an Americano, but they were in love.
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04-04-2024, 12:25 PM #1581Registered User
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Actualy the Rancillio SYlvia is really about as simple as it gets, I think even bike mechanics or computer geniuses could operate one without fucking it up if they can remember
So I was at a buddies place and he has 5 identical very expensive coffee m/c around his big expensive house, I forget the brand but they are like >2000 a piece so I asked WTF ?
so he said he had bought one for each of his stores and as he visited each store he found each one was used until dead and literaly left to rot
so he took them all home and bought each store a Melitta cone and now he has 2000$ M/c all over his house\
so apparently the best bet was a Mellita cone which they have not managed to fuck up yetLast edited by XXX-er; 04-04-2024 at 12:51 PM.
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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04-04-2024, 12:50 PM #1582
I own a Sylvia. I use it every morning.
I’m stoked for you that you found something you like, I’ve seen you make this same post a bunch of times. That being said…. when you’re a hammer everything looks like a nail.
There’s a time and place for a superauto.
How do you teach everybody in your office to be a barista? Know your audience and all, but I can’t imagine figuring out how to get everybody up to speed on dosage, tamping, extraction times, etc.
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04-04-2024, 01:19 PM #1583Registered User
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my kid has had 2 or 3 units that they have bought at Costco in the time i have had a Rancillio, i don't really want to learn about other espresso m/c cuz that would mean mine is broken
I'm not against super-autos but it could be more to break down/ not take care of, my buddy with the 5 super auto's couldn't get his staff to empty the used grinds bin so instead they left it full/ rotting went out and bought a takaway coffee, this didn't just happen once it happend 5 times
Remember Marie Antionette words " if they have no espresso let them taste styrafoam "Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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04-04-2024, 02:39 PM #1584
It must be all Neanderthals that far north
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04-04-2024, 02:41 PM #1585
Definitely have to have one person who is “in charge” of a superauto. Refill beans, dump the hopper, etc. - they also don’t last as long generally, that’s a fact. Lots of moving parts. But there’s a reason they exist. I had a Saeco, and it lasted 5 damn good years. Paid for itself many times. If I had needed to fix it I could have, but I didn’t have any need for it anymore.
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04-04-2024, 11:58 PM #1586
My last real job had a cimbali s30. I had no issue occasionally dumping grounds or refilling a hopper in exchange for the great cup of coffee that was a button push away.
I was never that convinced by the auto steam wand but for straight espresso it pulled a better shot than most baristas.
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04-05-2024, 08:32 PM #1587
So you’re saying, the $20k coffee machine was reliable. Good data point.
Sent from my iPhone using TGR ForumsHowever many are in a shit ton.
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04-19-2024, 07:19 AM #1588
For those of you with a grinder with a bellows to clear retention like the DF64, do you blow the retention into your portafilter and include it with your shot or discard it? I started discarding it and feel like I notice a slight difference especially with lighter longer pulling shots. The retention is definitely finer than the rest of the grind.
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04-21-2024, 11:26 PM #1589
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05-02-2024, 05:18 PM #1590
espresso making mags?
Trying out a superauto to compare with the Nespresso.
To be clear, this is for milk drinks since my gut won’t let me go straight.However many are in a shit ton.
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05-02-2024, 05:19 PM #1591
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05-03-2024, 01:19 AM #1592
I bet it outperforms most coffee shops if you put good fresh beans in it.
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05-17-2024, 02:56 PM #1593
I've been consistently pulling cafe quality shots with just over $200 invested.
First, a Delonghi 3420. $120 on Black Friday a few years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au92VvBYLrA
Then, as in the video, add the following. All parts sourced from Aliexpress (Amazon is just aliexpress with a 50% markup):
51mm bottomless portafilter
Timemore-style hand grinder with 6 core burr. (Burr is important: the standard 5-core burr will barely get a fine enough grind for espresso, and won't give you fine control over the grind size at that end of the settings. The 6-core burr will let you perfectly dial in grind size to each specific bean and roast. There is a 7-core that goes even finer, but I haven't tried it.)
Heavy-ass 51mm tamper
Dosing ring
Needle distributor
2mm screen
Zip tie
The important thing is to wait ~15 minutes after you turn it on, to let the brew group heat up fully. (EDIT to add: leave the portafilter in the machine, so it heats up along with the brew group.) The water heats up right away, but the brew group takes a lot longer. If you're in a hurry, you can run a couple long shots of water through once the light turns green, which works almost as well. Also, you have to pull the handle farther over with the bottomless portafilter. Instead of pulling it straight, you have to ram it all the way to the right or coffee will spray everywhere.
Result: Thick layer of beautiful crema, no obvious channeling, no spray, a delicious shot.
I suspect it might take more work to get the grind size right on a little 3420 than on a professional machine, since the pump isn't nearly as powerful. Fortunately I've found the magic range, within which all coffees seem to fall, and I'm never off by more than 1-2 notches to start. Also, the steam wand is really short with only the rubber nipple on there, so you have to get exactly the right size of frothing jug for the amount of milk you like. (You'll need a bigger jug for lattes than for cappuccinos unless you don't mind wasting a lot of milk.) But considering my little 3420 has already lasted for several years of nearly daily use, and it takes very little of my scarce counter space, I'm very happy with the results!Last edited by Spats; 05-17-2024 at 03:26 PM. Reason: added one detail
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05-17-2024, 04:22 PM #1594Registered User
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I keep seeing this said in this thread. Really?
Now i cant tell if i am spoiled by the coffee shop across the street that my company has an open tab at, or if my taste for espresso is fucked (its always the same 2 baristas). I VERY rarely buy espresso from other coffee shops because im too cheap, so i dont have much to compare it to. But it is a WAAAAAY better latte than the nespresso pods i drink at my inlaws place.
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05-17-2024, 04:22 PM #1595
espresso making mags?
I guess that all depends on the cafe.
I’m not consistent enough to touch the best cafes I’ve been to in the Bay Area, LA, PDX, Seattle, Zurich, Copenhagen etc. I can routinely crush anything local.
If it’s working for you, keep it up.
Super automatic machines don’t use pods. Good coffee in nearly always results in good coffee out.
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05-17-2024, 04:36 PM #1596
Cross-posting because this thread was right at the top when I posted in the other thread, and there's coffee people in here!
Looking for a collapsible coffee filter cone for camping (for pour-over, as kids these days call it).
BUT, all of the ones I see are for single cup or small pots; the largest I have see fits a #4 filter, which works sorta but isn't ideal. We want to be able to make a large pot (directly into a thermos), so using something like a #6 filter. Any ideas?"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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05-17-2024, 04:56 PM #1597
Super automatic =\= nespresso.
I say that as more of a slight to most commercial coffee than an endorsement of a super automatic.
In Reddit Roasting there was a discussion among commercial roasters about what they did if they had the burner go out for a minute + and the general consensus was to just blend it into the other batches.
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05-17-2024, 05:50 PM #1598
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05-17-2024, 06:26 PM #1599
It's not an issue of weight, it's space savings for our camping setup. And we're wanting to use a #6 filter, to make way more than 20 ounces. We already have a plastic #6 cone, but it takes up a ton of room in a very small camper. There are 2 of us, both pretty big coffee drinkers, so we're making a pot of ~60 ounces.
I am assuming that what I find (if I find anything) will be silicon or similar, not metal, but of course metal will be fine if it serves the purpose."fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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05-17-2024, 06:35 PM #1600
Do you use a Jetboil stove for camping?
They sell a French Press adapter that is compact, just tell the kids its pour over, wtf do they know.
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